There was a very famous incident in Kielce, city named Kielce.
That there were young people on a train.
[Interviewer] How do you know this?
[Malwina] That it happened? We know about it, we know people that were killed there.
[Interviewer] Can you tell from the perspective of how you knew that then
or how this affected you then?
[Malwina] We were told, we were told, that there is a danger that there are elements in Poland,
that they are pro-Nazi. They collaborated with the Nazis while Nazis were in power, and they are trying to commit crimes.
They trying to kill the survivors, the survivors, and it's danger to go.
That's why my father didn't want to go back to his hometown, because he was so known,
and eventually later on he went to visit his good friends, that he can trust, and they told him,
don't go there, don't go at night, stay with me, you're not safe here.
So it wasn't safe to come back to Poland.
And this is a horrible thing. After all what you went through, come back to your country, to your birth country,
that's why I have feelings, that this is my childhood, this is my birth country,
and that, after all that. So there were pogroms, they were killing Jews,
and Jews were trying to save their lives. We knew about it, we were told about it.
That's why we didn't go back to our own city, we lived in a big city that nobody
knew us, there was a lot like that returning from all directions.
Some were hiding, hidden in places, some children were in monasteries, you know the whole stories,
children were left behind, the young people and old people were coming out of the of the hiding places.
[Interviewer] Tell me personally the stories that you heard or the people that you met that were returning.
[Malwina] The stories, what they encountered in Poland?
[Interviewer] People that you knew personally...that you spoke to or that people that you saw returning from camps. Describe what you saw personally and what you heard personally.
That that we we have to be we have to be very careful who we
going to see and who we conduct business with because we shouldn't trust everybody,
we should not trust, the people were still... and even those who were surprised to see you,
they wouldn't say, 'Oh how wonderful, you survived, you came back,' they would say, 'You're still alive you
were alive, they didn't kill you?' That was that was the welcome we had when we came back to Poland.