My father,
he felt that...
one day, they will liquidate the ghetto.
And he started-- You see,
his mind was constantly working.
He was constantly building some hiding places,
because he wanted to save us.
And he came to a plan...
with another worker that worked for him...
that, "Maybe we can hide in the sewer.
Maybe in the sewer, the Germans will not find us."
They found a place-- some barrack.
The basement from this barrack, my father thought--
Because here, he remembers when he was a young boy...
when they were covering the Lwow sewers,
he was watching the engineer working,
and he remembered how it looked like, more or less.
This is how he had an idea that maybe we can find some tunnel...
under the ground that we can stay.
One day, they got through...
and they came to-- they entered the sewer.
One day, entered the sewer. They were standing there.
They saw suddenly a light,
and they thought that maybe this is Germans or somebody.
They were standing, and the light came closer.
And, suddenly, there was a voice. "What are you doing here?"
And my father recognized that this is police.
And he said that-- He came closer to those people.
They were the sewer workers.
They asked my father, "What are you doing here?"
And he said,
"I'm trying to find a hiding place for my family."
They looked at him and they said,
"Oh, let us check the work, what you did."
They checked the work and they said,
"Not bad, not bad, but it can be done better."
And one of them said,
"You know, we can help you, but it will cost you a lot of money."
The time when they were supposed to meet,
my father went down through--
through this tunnel that he built.
He went down and he brought the money.
And then one of them-- his name was Socha--
he came with my father...
up to the--
to the basement that we were hiding.
And he helped my father...
to make this tunnel more professional, you know.
He helped, and he said that the night when the liquidation of ghetto will come...
that he will wait for us in the sewer.
And in a few days, I remember,
my father came and he said, "That's it. We have to leave right now."
And I asked my father, "Where are we going?"
And he said, "Don't be scared. Don't be afraid."
He took me on his back and he told me,
"Hold me tight and go with me."
And every second, I was asking him,
"Daddy, where are we going? Where are we going?"
And then, I remember that my father took us...
to some small side tunnel,
and he said that we will stay there.
And we walked through this tunnel.
And it was-- it was a sewer, you know.
Everything was coming from the bathrooms,
comes through the sewer there.
We were walking on this.
The rats and the spiders' web--
We had to pull it back, the spiders' web.
It was terrible. And the smell--
And we were sitting there, waiting.
My father left because he was going to look for Socha.
Socha brought some blankets--
one or two blankets.
And we started to organize.
We had a carbide lamp...
that we could cook something--
warm water and cook something.
In this place-- We were 11 people...
in this place.
And this was our last place that we stay.
In this place, we stayed a year--
Fourteen months we stayed in this place.