It started in 1933, really.
But I had very good friends of whom I knew...
that they were members of the Nazi party since 1928.
And she was one of my best friends.
She didn't care that I was Jewish, and I didn't care that she was a Nazi.
She was one of my sports friends, and we got along very well.
But then, of course, in 1933, everything changed,
like overnight.
You could not go into a public place--
no restaurants, no swimming pools, no movies, nothing.
You couldn't-- You were not allowed in any public place anymore.
And people that you knew wouldn't talk to you anymore.
Friends you had, they would shun you-- most of them--
not because they hated us all of a sudden,
but they were all afraid because that was the way it was.
You talk to a Jew, and you'll be punished.
It was very hard. I was 19 years old,
and all of a sudden, I was shut off from everything.
I got a letter from my sports club in Ulm that I wasn't welcome there anymore...
because I was Jewish, and that was the thing I loved to do most,
as I said before-- sports.
And all of a sudden, that was finished. There was nothing I could do.
We just were really vegetating, if you wanna call it that.
So.